Got it..

[Nicholas Boel]

Looks like Tommi had the right idea. It wouldn't mail anything out until I got
rid of the subdirectories.

Now just via the domain name is how the mailer knows where to send a bunch of
convoluted packets from different networks to the right uplinks all from one
outbound directory? If that's the case, that's pretty neat. :)

Take care,
Nick

[Gert Andersen]

Hello Nicholas!

Tue Jul 05 2011, Nicholas Boel wrote to All:

NB>Looks like Tommi had the right idea. It wouldn't mail anything out
NB>until I got rid of the subdirectories.

NB>Now just via the domain name is how the mailer knows where to send a
NB>bunch of
NB>convoluted packets from different networks to the right uplinks all
NB>from one
NB>outbound directory? If that's the case, that's pretty neat. :)

By using domain in binkd will binkd make some outbound directories for you
The first as the default for zone 1 for you will be \fido\outbound then will
will the next outbound directory be made to a \outbound.### where .### is
digits for the zone number.
So it will come 3 outbound directories where main outbound will just be
\outbound or for linux systems /outbound and the othernets outbound is going by
hex digit numbers.
Like:
domain fidonet = \outbound
domain battlenet = \outnound.### (### = Hex digits)
domain Linuxnet = \outbound.###
domain micronet = \outbound.618

Then will you tosser could use the same outbound as just \outbound and self
find out what zone it is.
And when you then do league game playing do you not use the outbound to post
game files in.
You then add a outbox dir to helping binkd to send the game files from.
This is done by in the node line for you league uplink example for micronet
league 618.
node 618:100/***@micronet (hostname) password c d:\fido\outbox\l618\

Then will binkd check if there is some files in the outbox directory and send
it if any together with the normal mail to micronet uplink.


Take care,
Gert

- Get the best with linux -

[Nicholas Boel]

Re: Got it..
By: Gert Andersen to Nicholas Boel on Mon Jul 11 2011 02:39 pm

Post by Gert Andersen
Then will you tosser could use the same outbound as just \outbound and self
find out what zone it is.

Yep. I was told my configuration was wrong and was pointed to the perfect place
to find out why it was wrong. It's all fixed now as far as that's concerned.

Post by Gert Andersen
And when you then do league game playing do you not use the outbound to post
game files in.
You then add a outbox dir to helping binkd to send the game files from.
This is done by in the node line for you league uplink example for micronet
league 618.
Then will binkd check if there is some files in the outbox directory and sen
it if any together with the normal mail to micronet uplink.

Yep, that's how I have it setup now. All leagues get a filebox with the 'c'
flavour for crash. The only thing I see wrong now is a constant:

11 Jul 17:46:03 [9279] start_file_transfer: E:\FE555\OUTBOUND\555F6C01.303: No
such file or directory

for all games well after they get sent to my uplinks. I'm guessing this has to
do with the games' netmail packets? Do I have to throw a line in my tosser's
batch files to delete *.msg out of my netmail directory? I didn't want to do
this without asking first, as I'm not sure what real netmail from the BBS are
stored as, and don't want to mess that part of it up.

I'm assuming I can disregard/ignore those "No such file or directory" comments,
since the packets are still sent to my uplink. But I'm guessing since the
packets and netmail packets are made in Dosemu, that is why binkd can't find
them in E: .. :)

But if my game netmail packets aren't right in the first place, I probably
shouldn't be sending them to my uplink, either. *shrug*

Take care,
Nick

[Gert Andersen]

* Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

Hello Nicholas!

Post by Gert Andersen
Then will you tosser could use the same outbound as just \outbound and
self find out what zone it is.

NB>Yep. I was told my configuration was wrong and was pointed to the
NB>perfect place
NB>to find out why it was wrong. It's all fixed now as far as that's
NB>concerned.

So the normal mail system work for you fine.

Post by Gert Andersen
And when you then do league game playing do you not use the outbound to
post game files in.
You then add a outbox dir to helping binkd to send the game files from.
This is done by in the node line for you league uplink example for
micronet league 618.
Then will binkd check if there is some files in the outbox directory and
sen it if any together with the normal mail to micronet uplink.

NB>Yep, that's how I have it setup now. All leagues get a filebox with the
NB>'c'
NB>flavour for crash. The only thing I see wrong now is a constant:

NB>11 Jul 17:46:03 [9279] start_file_transfer:
NB>E:\FE555\OUTBOUND\555F6C01.303: No
NB>such file or directory

This is why binkd check your outbox 2 times and have send the files.

NB>for all games well after they get sent to my uplinks. I'm guessing this
NB>has to
NB>do with the games' netmail packets? Do I have to throw a line in my
NB>tosser's
NB>batch files to delete *.msg out of my netmail directory? I didn't want
NB>to do
NB>this without asking first, as I'm not sure what real netmail from the
NB>BBS are
NB>stored as, and don't want to mess that part of it up.

When you put the games files to a outbox directory for uplink is you have no
use of the netmail for sending.
You can for the games netmail make a special games netmail directory for for
all games to use.

NB>I'm assuming I can disregard/ignore those "No such file or directory"
NB>comments,
NB>since the packets are still sent to my uplink. But I'm guessing since
NB>the
NB>packets and netmail packets are made in Dosemu, that is why binkd can't
NB>find them in E: .. :)

You can ignore the binkd messages no such file.

NB>But if my game netmail packets aren't right in the first place, I
NB>probably shouldn't be sending them to my uplink, either. *shrug*

For linux dosemu you can let all league games have one special netmail for use
and by your outbound.bat and maint.bat file use a last line.
like:
maint.bat of last lines:
c:
cd \games\msgs
if exist *.msgs del *.msgs
e:
exitemu

Then will your games' netmail not go to your fidonet netmail area.

How do it go with your linuxnet running now ?
Is you ready to go on to the next 2 nets you have wanted to be in. ?

Take care,
Gert

- Get the best with linux -

[Nicholas Boel]

Re: Got it..
By: Gert Andersen to Nicholas Boel on Tue Jul 12 2011 08:52 am

Post by Gert Andersen
So the normal mail system work for you fine.

Yeah. I thought the "normal" mail system was using the 5D outbound style, with
the league tags. I was wrong. :)

Post by Gert Andersen
When you put the games files to a outbox directory for uplink is you have no
use of the netmail for sending.

Ok, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Post by Gert Andersen
You can for the games netmail make a special games netmail directory for for
all games to use.

Thank you for that. Instead of changing the netmail directory for *ALL* my
games, I just changed the BBS netmail directory. Same thing, just less
configuration on my part. :)

Post by Gert Andersen
You can ignore the binkd messages no such file.

I will ignore them, but I'd rather not see them at all. And you seemed to have
pointed me in the right direction to accomplish this. Thanks!

Post by Gert Andersen
How do it go with your linuxnet running now ?
Is you ready to go on to the next 2 nets you have wanted to be in. ?

Looks like everything's going good over here. I'll be ready here in a day or
two. I've spent a huge amount of time in front of the computer the past week,
and my kids are needing some attention. I'll email you one application at a
time here soon.

Take care,
Nick

[Gert Andersen]

* Reply to message originally in area CarbonArea

Hello Nicholas!

Post by Gert Andersen
So the normal mail system work for you fine.

NB>Yeah. I thought the "normal" mail system was using the 5D outbound
NB>style, with the league tags. I was wrong. :)

Binkd just use to have the default outbound path for fidonet and use of domain
and it will create the other outbounds with hex digits as extension.

Post by Gert Andersen
When you put the games files to a outbox directory for uplink is you
have no use of the netmail for sending.

NB>Ok, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

Yup, by using seperate outbox directories for league games by add it to the
node line in binkd.conf (but the outbox directory must exist else will binkd
not run), and then will binkd first check the normal outboudn and then the
outbox directory to send files from.

Post by Gert Andersen
You can for the games netmail make a special games netmail directory for
for all games to use.

NB>Thank you for that. Instead of changing the netmail directory for *ALL*
NB>my
NB>games, I just changed the BBS netmail directory. Same thing, just less
NB>configuration on my part. :)

It is better to keep fido and nets + the BBS netmail directory netmail
directory and make a new for the games should I mean. :)

Post by Gert Andersen
You can ignore the binkd messages no such file.

NB>I will ignore them, but I'd rather not see them at all. And you seemed
NB>to have
NB>pointed me in the right direction to accomplish this. Thanks!

Some times comes binkd with it not can find the file and some times not, and
why it not can find the file is why it try to send it again.
That is why your in in binkd.conf have a outbox double here at the end of the
node lines. So if you just use having only one outbox path for the right node
aka will binkd just use this and not say it not can find the file to send send,
so use only one path line for outbox for the nodes.

Post by Gert Andersen
How do it go with your linuxnet running now ?
Is you ready to go on to the next 2 nets you have wanted to be in. ?

NB>Looks like everything's going good over here. I'll be ready here in a
NB>day or
NB>two. I've spent a huge amount of time in front of the computer the past
NB>week,
NB>and my kids are needing some attention. I'll email you one application
NB>at a time here soon.

Ok, I look forward to get them then.

Take care,
Gert

- Get the best with linux -

[Nicholas Boel]

Re: Got it..
By: Gert Andersen to Nicholas Boel on Wed Jul 13 2011 11:25 am

Post by Gert Andersen
NB>Thank you for that. Instead of changing the netmail directory for *ALL*
NB>my
NB>games, I just changed the BBS netmail directory. Same thing, just less
NB>configuration on my part. :)
It is better to keep fido and nets + the BBS netmail directory netmail
directory and make a new for the games should I mean. :)

And why is that? Changing my netmail directory only involved changing one
setting in my Synchronet configuration. That moved my netmail directory for
fido, othernets, and my BBS away from all the games.

Take care,
Nick

[Stas Degteff]

Hello Nicholas!

11 Jul 11 14:39, Gert Andersen wrote to you:

GA> The first as the default for zone 1 for you will be \fido\outbound
GA> then will will the next outbound directory be made to a \outbound.###
GA> where .### is digits for the zone number. So it will come 3 outbound
GA> directories where main outbound will just be \outbound or for linux
GA> systems /outbound and the othernets outbound is going by hex digit
GA> numbers.
GA> Like:
GA> domain fidonet = \outbound

this "default" outbound (sub)directory provides compatibility with 2D-software
and default number should be equal to number of a zone of main AKA.
Such compatibility is outdated also this condition nowadays has only the
historical reasons

GA> domain battlenet = \outnound.### (### = Hex digits)
GA> domain Linuxnet = \outbound.###
GA> domain micronet = \outbound.618


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