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Readers that work with BinkD
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Al Kaiser
2012-03-26 13:04:53 UTC
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Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD? I have been using TERMINATE,
(TER500), but have had problems with it for quite a while. I have asked in
the TEMINAE area if anyone knows of a solution or has had the same problems.
There really is no support for TERMINAE anymore. The author abandoned the
program years ago, though for some reason there is STILL a web page with
the downloads on it, (but if you try to contact the author to register the
program you find that the email address is no good. I am not sure if that
page is just left over on a server and never taken down someplace or what.
I doubt that someone maintains it.

I would appreciate if someone knows of a good reader, WITH support that will
work with BinkD so that I can pick up my mail from my BOSS Node, have it tossed
to the reader, read it, reply and toss it back to BinkD to send. I would like
to be sure that the reader has a TAGLINE program either insalled or can use
one of my external program.

Any help or advise greatly appreciated and if you wish you can reply to my
email address below.

Thanks!

-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

Works for me!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 26-Mar-2012 at 17:05.
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mark lewis
2012-03-28 17:53:50 UTC
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"Al Kaiser -> All" <1:142/926> wrote in news:2260$***@JamNNTPd:

AK> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD?

what do you mean "reader"??? what tosser and message base format?? are you
asking for a sysop reader/editor or something more from a user standpoint??
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Al Kaiser
2012-03-29 17:36:10 UTC
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Saturday, 28 March 122 21:53:50, mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser Subject:
Readers that work with BinkD

AK>> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD?

ml> what do you mean "reader"??? what tosser and message base
ml> format?? are you asking for a sysop reader/editor or something more
ml> from a user standpoint??

From a users stand point. I have a couple of suggestions, one is GOLDED.


-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-


Take care mark!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 29-Mar-2012 at 21:36.
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mark lewis
2012-03-29 19:29:03 UTC
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"Al Kaiser -> mark lewis" <1:142/926> wrote in news:2264$***@JamNNTPd:

AK> Saturday, 28 March 122 21:53:50, mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser Subject:
AK> Readers that work with BinkD

AK>>> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD?

ml>> what do you mean "reader"??? what tosser and message base
ml>> format?? are you asking for a sysop reader/editor or something more
ml>> from a user standpoint??

AK> From a users stand point. I have a couple of suggestions, one is GOLDED.

user as in point system or ??

but in any case, yes, golded, timed, and several other "sysop" readers will
work for you... this is why i asked about the tosser and message base format
(s) you will be using... this ain't the QWK or Blue Wave world ;) ;)
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Al Kaiser
2012-03-30 08:27:09 UTC
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Sunday, 29 March 122 23:29:03 mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser
Subject: Readers that work with BinkD

ml> user as in point system or ??

ml> but in any case, yes, golded, timed, and several other "sysop"
ml> readers will work for you... this is why i asked about the tosser
ml> and message base format (s) you will be using... this ain't the QWK
ml> or Blue Wave world ;) ;)


Yes as a user. I had one "revilation" last night and now wonder if it is the
fact that I am running program built for DOS on a system that runs in a
WINDOWS XP SE DOS Window.

I think that before all these problems started could have been before the
lighting strke and when I had the "old" computer that ran Windows 98 or maybe
95?

Who knows it may be a program(s), that is / are not compatible with the OS.
This computer has a a WINDOWS 98 DOS Drive for running Amateur Radio programs
and I am wondering if because the drive was FORMATTED windows, if everthing
has to be on that drive rather than the Windows XP drive. As you can see
a lot of variables.


-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

Take care mark!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 30-Mar-2012 at 12:27.
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mark lewis
2012-03-31 05:36:07 UTC
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AK>> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD?

ml> what do you mean "reader"??? what tosser and message base
ml> format?? are you asking for a sysop reader/editor or something more
ml> from a user standpoint??

AK> From a users stand point. I have a couple of suggestions, one is
AK> GOLDED.

that is one... there's also TimED... and if one is using JAM bases, they might
even set up JAMNNTPd and use a news reader ;)

)\/(ark
Al Kaiser
2012-04-01 15:42:25 UTC
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mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Readers that work with BinkD

AK>> From a users stand point. I have a couple of suggestions,
AK>> one is GOLDED.


Well I've got the Golded Files and I've been looking for an INSTALL program
or a READ ME FIRST file and have not found one. They are sitting on the
main computer and I need to move them over via the network.

But I also need to find out what to do to set them up.


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Stay Healthy 'n Wealthy!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 01-Apr-2012 at 19:42.
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Joe Delahaye
2012-03-28 18:26:59 UTC
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Re: Readers that work with BinkD
By: Al Kaiser to All on Mon Mar 26 2012 17:04:53
Post by Al Kaiser
I would appreciate if someone knows of a good reader, WITH support that
will work with BinkD so that I can pick up my mail from my BOSS Node, have
it tossed to the reader, read it, reply and toss it back to BinkD to send.
I would like to be sure that the reader has a TAGLINE program either
insalled or can use one of my external program.
Golded would likely work for you
Al Kaiser
2012-03-29 17:39:44 UTC
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Saturday, 28 March 122 22:26:59, Joe Delahaye wrote to Al Kaiser
Subject: Readers that work with BinkD
Post by Al Kaiser
I would appreciate if someone knows of a good reader, WITH
support that will work with BinkD so that I can pick up my mail
from my BOSS Node, have it tossed to the reader, read it, reply and
toss it back to BinkD to send. I would like to be sure that the
reader has a TAGLINE program either insalled or can use one of my
external program.
JD> >

JD> Golded would likely work for you

Well thanks for the suggestion. What I do is get the mail from the BOSS node,
then toss it to the reader, and read it. If I reply then I use an external
editor which allows me a "funny" or selectable head line and then adds lets
me add a tagline after. I then sent the outbound mail back for entry into the
network.




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Toodeloo!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 29-Mar-2012 at 21:39.
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Joe Delahaye
2012-03-29 17:50:54 UTC
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Re: Readers that work with BinkD
By: Al Kaiser to Joe Delahaye on Thu Mar 29 2012 21:39:44
Post by Al Kaiser
JD> Golded would likely work for you
Well thanks for the suggestion. What I do is get the mail from the BOSS
node, then toss it to the reader, and read it. If I reply then I use an
external editor which allows me a "funny" or selectable head line and then
adds lets me add a tagline after. I then sent the outbound mail back for
entry into the network.
As I said, Golded+ will do just fine. Are you a point or a full mail system? I
run a full BBS and read my mail online
Al Kaiser
2012-03-30 08:24:08 UTC
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Sunday, 29 March 122 21:50:54 Joe Delahaye wrote to Al Kaiser
Subject: Readers that work with BinkD

JD> As I said, Golded+ will do just fine. Are you a point or a
JD> full mail system? I run a full BBS and read my mail online


Just a point and read offline. In fact sometime the mail sits for a day or
so before I can get to it.


-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

That's all for now!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 30-Mar-2012 at 12:24.
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Joe Delahaye
2012-03-30 07:38:02 UTC
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Re: Readers that work with BinkD
By: Al Kaiser to Joe Delahaye on Fri Mar 30 2012 12:24:08
Post by Al Kaiser
Just a point and read offline. In fact sometime the mail sits for a day or
so before I can get to it.
I believer that there are still point programs available. Most are ancient,
but I would imagine that they would still work.
Robert Bashe
2012-03-31 05:24:56 UTC
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Joe Delahaye wrote to Al Kaiser on Friday March 30 2012 at 11:38:

JD> I believer that there are still point programs available. Most are
JD> ancient, but I would imagine that they would still work.

Sure they do. I regularly read messages written by people using Crosspoint
("XP"). I just don't know if it's ever been translated into English, but as the
source cose is available, I would think so.

That's still an ideal point program.

Cheers, Bob
Paul Quinn
2012-03-29 08:04:00 UTC
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Hi! Al,

In a message to All you wrote:

AK> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD?

Are you running Windows-anything? If not, then "move along, these aren't the
droids you're looking for"...

I did some looking years ago for point packages that I might recommend to
potential point applicants, and came up with one all-in-one that I'd recommend
to anyone... point or not. It would suit your situation to a 'T' It's called
'Fido Package Deluxe' (aka FPD), and can be found at:

http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu/english.htm

Check out the screenshots on the site. If you can't get it then I can crash it
to your binkD node.

Here's a quick synopsis of its parts...

--- 8< ---
Mailer: BinkD 0.9.7/Win32 from 15.06.2004
Tosser: hpt/w32-wc 1.3.0-cur from 07.02.2003
Editor: GoldEd+/W32 1.1.5-b20070116 from 16.01.2007 for Windows NT/2000/XP and
GoldEd+/386 1.1.5-b20070116 for Windows 9x/ME (wegen Tastaturpolling)
Packer: XArc 7.13 from 29.04.1991 (for Nodediffs)
Zip 2.32 from 19.06.2006
UnZip 5.52 from 28.02.2005
UnRar/32 3.42 from 30.12.2004
Nodelist compiler: FastLst 2.01 W32 from 29.10.1997
--- 8< ---

The GoldEd+ reader is one of the best editors available, and has excellent
support for taglines.

Don't be intimidated by the bits that make up the package. FPD has an
excellent installation routine and your use of it is on "full auto" mode; it
does everything for you bar stir the martini. When you get the hang of it, you
can fine-tune it manually.

Your only concern is configuring a point address for the FPD set up on your
main node. Either that or, getting the same service from your boss node.

Cheers,
Paul.
Al Kaiser
2012-03-29 17:46:17 UTC
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Saturday, 29 March 121 12:04:00, Paul Quinn wrote to Al Kaiser Subject:
Readers that work with BinkD

PQ> Are you running Windows-anything? If not, then "move along,
PQ> these aren't the droids you're looking for"..

PQ> I did some looking years ago for point packages that I might
PQ> recommend to potential point applicants, and came up with one
PQ> all-in-one that I'd recommend to anyone... point or not. It would
PQ> suit your situation to a 'T' It's called 'Fido Package Deluxe' (aka
PQ> FPD), and can be found at

PQ> http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu/english.htm

PQ> Check out the screenshots on the site. If you can't get it
PQ> then I can crash it to your binkD node

PQ> Here's a quick synopsis of its parts...

PQ> Mailer: BinkD 0.9.7/Win32 from 15.06.2004 Tosser: hpt/w32-wc
PQ> 1.3.0-cur from 07.02.2003 Editor: GoldEd+/W32 1.1.5-b20070116 from
PQ> 16.01.2007 for Windows NT/2000/XP and GoldEd+/386 1.1.5-b20070116
PQ> for Windows 9x/ME (wegen Tastaturpolling) Packer: XArc 7.13 from
PQ> 29.04.1991 (for Nodediffs) Zip 2.32 from 19.06.2006 UnZip 5.52 from
PQ> 28.02.2005 UnRar/32 3.42 from 30.12.2004 Nodelist compiler: FastLst
PQ> 2.01 W32 from 29.10.1997

PQ> The GoldEd+ reader is one of the best editors available, and
PQ> has excellent support for taglines

PQ> Don't be intimidated by the bits that make up the package. FPD
PQ> has an excellent installation routine and your use of it is on
PQ> "full auto" mode; it does everything for you bar stir the martini.
PQ> When you get the hang of it, you can fine-tune it manually

PQ> Your only concern is configuring a point address for the FPD
PQ> set up on your main node. Either that or, getting the same service
PQ> from your boss node

PQ> Cheers, Paul.


OK you are the second one who suggested a package with Golded in it. Boy
one thing I am not lokking forwad to is setting up another package, but I
guess I can just set it up in "parallel" with what I am running now to make
sure it works right.

I'm thinking that TERMAIL is not working correctly because when I reply to
message I usually get a different "starter" line but this one seem to be
giving me a the same starter line ever message. Oh for the old "Bluewave"
days! By the way I am running Windows XP on this computer. It is also the
"radio" computer. (Hooked up to Amateur Radio for use in contesting, digital
and CW work).

Thanks

Al



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Works for me!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 29-Mar-2012 at 21:46.
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mark lewis
2012-03-29 19:32:03 UTC
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"Al Kaiser -> Paul Quinn" <1:142/926> wrote in news:2266$***@JamNNTPd:

AK> I'm thinking that TERMAIL is not working correctly because when I reply
AK> to message I usually get a different "starter" line but this one seem to
AK> be giving me a the same starter line ever message. Oh for the old
AK> "Bluewave" days! By the way I am running Windows XP on this computer.
AK> It is also the "radio" computer. (Hooked up to Amateur Radio for use in
AK> contesting, digital and CW work).

termail is very ancient as far as FTN software goes... i remember when it
first appeared... and TBH, it should still work for you as long as the
connection capabilities are still available...

so what connection protocol are you looking at using??
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Al Kaiser
2012-03-30 08:33:35 UTC
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Sunday, 29 March 122 23:32:03 mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser
Subject: Readers that work with BinkD

ml> so what connection protocol are you looking at using??

I am not sure what you mean by connection protocol.

-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

TTYL!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 30-Mar-2012 at 12:33.
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mark lewis
2012-03-31 07:38:17 UTC
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ml> so what connection protocol are you looking at using??

AK> I am not sure what you mean by connection protocol.

doesn't termail connect to the remote system to pull down your new mail for you
to read? what protocol does it (termail) use? that's what i was asking...
protocol like FTS-0001, emsi, binkp, etc...

but that's likely not related to your problem...

)\/(ark
Al Kaiser
2012-04-01 15:35:18 UTC
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mark lewis wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Readers that work with BinkD

ml>> so what connection protocol are you looking at using??

AK>> I am not sure what you mean by connection protocol.

ml> doesn't termail connect to the remote system to pull down your
ml> new mail for you to read? what protocol does it (termail) use?
ml> that's what i was asking... protocol like FTS-0001, emsi, binkp,
ml> etc..

I am using Binkd to receive and sent the mail.


ml> but that's likely not related to your problem...

ml> )\/(ark

-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

Have a nice day, mark!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 01-Apr-2012 at 19:35.
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Paul Quinn
2012-03-30 10:41:00 UTC
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Hi! Al,

On Thu, 29 Mar 12, you wrote to me:

PQ>> The GoldEd+ reader is one of the best editors available, and
PQ>> has excellent support for taglines

AK> OK you are the second one who suggested a package with Golded in it.
AK> Boy one thing I am not lokking forwad to is setting up another
AK> package,

You can take your time with it. I did.

AK> but I guess I can just set it up in "parallel" with what I am running
AK> now to make sure it works right.

Yes. That's the best, so long as you already have some form of messagebase of
JAM or Squish files.

GoldEd+ can be downloaded from...


http://sourceforge.net/projects/golded-plus/files/Golded%2B%201.1.5%20snapshots/

Look for these versions, for Windows...

gpwin-115-20110320.zip
gpw32-115-20110320.zip

They've been built with different compilers, that's all. (I use the second
one, here, when I'm not using something else. :)

While you're there, grab this one as well...

gpc115-20110223.zip

It has the documentation and sample configuration files (fully commented).

Have fun with it.

Cheers,
Paul.
Raymond Quinn
2012-04-01 14:08:00 UTC
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-=> Al Kaiser wrote to All <=-

AK> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD? I have been using

All the suggestions you have received are quite good. There is another software
package that you could use as well.
D'Bridge has everything you need, Binkdwin, tosser, reader. Find it at
www.net229.org/dbridge.htm.

It is still supported and even has its own Fidonet support Echo, DBRIDGE.

73 de Ray W6RAY
Visalia, CA DM06ih
***@w6ray.#nca.ca.usa.noam



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Al Kaiser
2012-04-02 09:12:53 UTC
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Raymond Quinn wrote to Al Kaiser Subject: Re: Readers that work with
BinkD

-=> Al Kaiser wrote to All <=-

AK>> Anyone know what readers will work with BinkD? I have been
AK>> using

RQ> All the suggestions you have received are quite good. There is
RQ> another software package that you could use as well. D'Bridge has
RQ> everything you need, Binkdwin, tosser, reader. Find it at
RQ> www.net229.org/dbridge.htm.

RQ> It is still supported and even has its own Fidonet support
RQ> Echo, DBRIDGE.

RQ> 73 de Ray W6RAY Visalia, CA DM06ih
RQ> ***@w6ray.#nca.ca.usa.noam


Thanks for the suggestion.




-=> Al Kaiser ***@cox.net <=-

Have a nice day, Raymond!

Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 02-Apr-2012 at 13:12.
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Andrew Leary
2012-04-02 10:33:04 UTC
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Hello Al!

02 Apr 12 13:12, Al Kaiser wrote to Raymond Quinn:

RQ>> All the suggestions you have received are quite good. There is
RQ>> another software package that you could use as well. D'Bridge has
RQ>> everything you need, Binkdwin, tosser, reader. Find it at
RQ>> www.net229.org/dbridge.htm.

RQ>> It is still supported and even has its own Fidonet support
RQ>> Echo, DBRIDGE.

AK> Thanks for the suggestion.

I have D'Bridge here too; if you need it just yell.

Regards,

Andrew

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