nodelist format

[Stephen Walsh]

Hello,

Is it posable to set a different port in the nodelist for a binkd system?

The default port is 24554, can I use this format to set a different port?


,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:hostname:55555




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[Stas Degteff]

Hello Stephen.

03 Mar 10 13:28, you wrote to All:

SW> Is it posable to set a different port in the nodelist for a binkd
SW> system?

SW> The default port is 24554, can I use this format to set a different
SW> port?

SW> ,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:hostnam
SW> e:55555

,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:55555,INA:hostname

Look my node's line in nodelist.

Stas
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[Stephen Walsh]

Hello Stas.

03 Mar 10 18:25, you wrote to me:

SW>> Is it posable to set a different port in the nodelist for a binkd
SW>> system?
[...]

SD> ,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:55555,I
SD> NA:hostname

SD> Look my node's line in nodelist.

Thanks. That is the information I was after.


Stephen

[Bo Simonsen]

SW>Is it posable to set a different port in the nodelist for a binkd
SW>system?
SW>
SW>The default port is 24554, can I use this format to set a different
SW>port?
SW>
SW>,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:hostname:
SW>55555

Since most software for binkp doesn't use the nodelist, it doesn't really
matter, however I think using INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative port> is
the most appropriate.

Bo

[Stephen Walsh]

Hello Bo.

03 Mar 10 12:46, you wrote to me:

SW>> ,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:host
SW>> name:55555

BS> Since most software for binkp doesn't use the nodelist, it doesn't
BS> really matter, however I think using INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative
BS>> port> is the most appropriate.

All of the messages I've received have used that format, so that's how it will
be used in the nodelist segment...

Thanks,

Stephen

[Bo Simonsen]

SW> SW>>
SW>,nodenumber,systemname,location,sysop,-unpublished-,300,CM,IBN:host
SW> SW>> name:55555
SW>
SW> BS> Since most software for binkp doesn't use the nodelist, it doesn't
SW> BS> really matter, however I think using
SW>INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative
SW> BS>> port> is the most appropriate.
SW>
SW>All of the messages I've received have used that format, so that's how
SW>it will
SW>be used in the nodelist segment...

Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as systemname

. Personally I don't like it.

Bo

[mark lewis]

BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
BS> systemname

BS> . Personally I don't like it.

i've never been for that use, either... my system's name is Waldo's Place USA,
not wpusa.dynip.com or a subdomain of that... trying to make others (ie: the
FTSC administrator some years back) understand that was worse than beating
one's head against a concrete wall :? :(

)\/(ark

[Roger Nelson]

On Fri 2010-Mar-05 01:38, mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote to Bo Simonsen:

BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
BS> systemname

BS> . Personally I don't like it.

ml> i've never been for that use, either... my system's name is Waldo's
ml> Place USA, not wpusa.dynip.com or a subdomain of that... trying to
ml> make others (ie: the FTSC administrator some years back) understand
ml> that was worse than beating one's head against a concrete wall :?
ml> :(

What's difference between the FTSC Chair and Administrator?

...I'm in disguise this morning

Regards,

Roger

[Scott Little]

[ On 2010-03-05 at 05:59:48, Roger Nelson wrote to mark lewis ]

RN> What's difference between the FTSC Chair and Administrator?

The FTSC Chair is what the FTSC Administrator sits on ;)

Something like referring to royalty by means of some ornamental artifact, like
the Throne or the Crown. "Chair" is not mentioned in the current
documentation, so it's either old terminology or just personal habit by people
who've had to attend too many business meetings.


-- Scott Little [fidonet#3:712/848 / ***@sysgod.org]

[Roger Nelson]

SL> [ On 2010-03-05 at 05:59:48, Roger Nelson wrote to mark lewis ]

SL>RN> What's difference between the FTSC Chair and Administrator?

SL> The FTSC Chair is what the FTSC Administrator sits on ;)

LOL!

SL> Something like referring to royalty by means of some ornamental artifact,
SL> like the Throne or the Crown. "Chair" is not mentioned in the current
SL> documentation, so it's either old terminology or just personal habit by
SL> people who've had to attend too many business meetings.

I think he's declared "hisself" as such.


Regards,

Roger

... Experience is directly proportional to ruined equipment

[Bo Simonsen]

ml> BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
ml> BS> systemname
ml>
ml> BS> . Personally I don't like it.
ml>
ml>i've never been for that use, either... my system's name is Waldo's
ml>Place USA, not wpusa.dynip.com or a subdomain of that... trying to make
ml>others (ie: the FTSC administrator some years back) understand that was
ml>worse than beating one's head against a concrete wall :? :(

Just my point marc!

I guess at that time, the FTSC members has generally been against IP nodes.
Just recall that R50 didn't want any IP nodes, some people in the FTSC
may also have felt in that way. I guess you know for sure if this is true.

I guess the INA solution is greate.. I don't like the way people are using
the "phone" field for IP addresses, you need to careful configure your
mailer so it wouldn't dial.

Bo

[Stas Degteff]

Hello Bo!

05 Mar 10 13:20, you wrote to mark lewis:

BS> Just recall that R50 didn't want any IP nodes, some people in
BS> the FTSC may also have felt in that way. I guess you know for sure if
BS> this is true.

Your opinion about IP in R50 is erroneous. Regional coordinator makes demands
to IP-only nodes for work 24/7 via binkp, no more.

Stas
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[Bo Simonsen]

SD> BS> Just recall that R50 didn't want any IP nodes, some people in
SD> BS> the FTSC may also have felt in that way. I guess you know for sure
SD>if
SD> BS> this is true.
SD>
SD>Your opinion about IP in R50 is erroneous. Regional coordinator makes
SD>demands to IP-only nodes for work 24/7 via binkp, no more.

I am talking about the past here..

Bo

[Scott Little]

[ On 2010-03-05 at 13:20:12, Bo Simonsen wrote to mark lewis ]

BS> I guess at that time, the FTSC members has generally been against IP
BS> nodes.

Not that I recall, only against making a mess of the nodelist format and/or
breaking connectivity.


-- Scott Little [fidonet#3:712/848 / ***@sysgod.org]

[Bo Simonsen]

SL> [ On 2010-03-05 at 13:20:12, Bo Simonsen wrote to mark lewis ]
SL>
SL> BS> I guess at that time, the FTSC members has generally been against
SL>IP
SL> BS> nodes.
SL>
SL>Not that I recall, only against making a mess of the nodelist format
SL>and/or breaking connectivity.

Yes.. For example, 000-ip requires you too explicitly define in your
POTS mailer that such entry should not be dialable.

Bo

[Stephen Walsh]

Hello Bo.

05 Mar 10 13:20, you wrote to mark lewis:

BS> I guess the INA solution is greate.. I don't like the way people are
BS> using the "phone" field for IP addresses, you need to careful
BS> configure your mailer so it wouldn't dial.

The phone field here in Australia has to be -unpublished- for ip systems. The
use of 000-000-000 for the phone number clashes with our emergency services.
(it's 000)



Stephen

[Bo Simonsen]

SW>Hello Bo.
SW>
SW>05 Mar 10 13:20, you wrote to mark lewis:
SW>
SW> BS> I guess the INA solution is greate.. I don't like the way people
SW>are
SW> BS> using the "phone" field for IP addresses, you need to careful
SW> BS> configure your mailer so it wouldn't dial.
SW>
SW>The phone field here in Australia has to be -unpublished- for ip
SW>systems. The
SW>use of 000-000-000 for the phone number clashes with our emergency
SW>services.
SW>(it's 000)

It used to be here also. However it's 112.. However some american nodes
have 000-ip.

Bo

[Jerry Schwartz]

Hello, Bo...

Mar 11, 2010 at 19:53, Bo Simonsen wrote to Stephen Walsh:

SW>>Hello Bo.
SW>>
SW>>05 Mar 10 13:20, you wrote to mark lewis:
SW>>
SW>> BS> I guess the INA solution is greate.. I don't like the way people
SW>>are
SW>> BS> using the "phone" field for IP addresses, you need to careful
SW>> BS> configure your mailer so it wouldn't dial.
SW>>
SW>>The phone field here in Australia has to be -unpublished- for ip
SW>>systems. The
SW>>use of 000-000-000 for the phone number clashes with our emergency
SW>>services.
SW>>(it's 000)

BS> It used to be here also. However it's 112.. However some american
BS> nodes
BS> have 000-ip.

This debate goes back to when IP addresses were only four digits. :<)

Indian phone numbers begin with 911, and it was pointed out many times that for
US and Canadian sysops this, too, required careful configuration. The big
difference is that most novice sysops wouldn't be making POTS calls from North
America to India, although it could be argued that those who don't know how to
configure their mailers properly are precisely the ones who would.

In any case, one of the major problems has always been the restrictions on the
lengths of individual and collective user flags. Some of us still use the
antedeluvian DOS version of MakeNL.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz

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http://www.writebynight.com

[Stephen Walsh]

Hello Bo.

04 Mar 10 22:43, you wrote to me:

SW> BS>> Since most software for binkp doesn't use the nodelist, it
SW> BS>> doesn't really matter, however I think using
SW> BS>> INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative> is the most appropriate.
SW>>
SW>> All of the messages I've received have used that format, so that's
SW>> how it will be used in the nodelist segment...

BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
BS> systemname

I have made that change to the segment here, hopefully in the next nodediff
it'll make it into the nodelist.

Thanks for the info.



Stephen

[Bo Simonsen]

SW> SW> BS>> Since most software for binkp doesn't use the nodelist, it
SW> SW> BS>> doesn't really matter, however I think using
SW> SW> BS>> INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative> is the most appropriate.
SW> SW>>
SW> SW>> All of the messages I've received have used that format, so that's
SW> SW>> how it will be used in the nodelist segment...
SW>
SW> BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
SW> BS> systemname
SW>
SW>I have made that change to the segment here, hopefully in the next
SW>nodediff
SW>it'll make it into the nodelist.

Cool, one more node entry formatted according to my taste ;)

SW>Thanks for the info.

You're welcome.. Please ask if you have any other doubts regarding nodelists
and stuff.

Bo

[Benny Pedersen]

Hello Bo!

04 Mar 10 22:43, Bo Simonsen wrote to Stephen Walsh:

BS> Great. I hope that people will move away from using the hostname as
BS> systemname

i did a very good job with a php code that maked a binkd.conf from sql,
remember fidosql ?

Regards Benny


... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

[Benny Pedersen]

Hello Bo!

03 Mar 10 12:46, Bo Simonsen wrote to Stephen Walsh:

BS> matter, however I think using INA:<hostname>,IBN:<alternative port> is the
BS> most
BS> appropriate.

make it matter then


Regards Benny


... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)