Passwds

[Rick Smith]

Hello All!

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or hpt.
I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed to more
than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or do they have
to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by making his
different networks have the same passwd but I have others with different ones
that work just fine?

Regards,

Rick

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[Nick Andre]

On 09 Feb 24 06:28:00, Rick Smith said the following to All:

RS> I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or
RS> hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed t
RS> more than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or do th
RS> have to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by maki

In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD connections
here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD connections are solved the
moment the passwords are set the same.

Nick

[Rick Smith]

Greetings Nick!

Friday February 09 2024 13:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

NA> * Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
NA> On 09 Feb 24 06:28:00, Rick Smith said the following to All:

RS>> I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its
RS>> binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my
RS>> downlinks are subscribed t more than one. Can they have different
RS>> passwords for each network or do th have to be the same? I know
RS>> yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by maki

NA> In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD
NA> connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD
NA> connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the same.

What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host same downlink
more than one ftn session pwds should match the other stuff is hpt and should
be fine I am thinking...???



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[Nick Andre]

On 09 Feb 24 20:25:10, Rick Smith said the following to Nick Andre:

RS> NA> In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD
RS> NA> connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD
RS> NA> connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the same.
RS>
RS> What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host same downlin
RS> more than one ftn session pwds should match the other stuff is hpt and shou
RS> be fine I am thinking...???

I'm not really sure, just that it was fixed here and left alone.

Hpt should have nothing to do with BinkD?

Nick

[Rick Smith]

Hello Nick!

Saturday February 10 2024 09:17, you wrote to me:

NA> * Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
NA> On 09 Feb 24 20:25:10, Rick Smith said the following to Nick Andre:

RS>> NA> In my experience dealing with different types of inbound
RS>> BinkD
RS>> NA> connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD
RS>> NA> connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the
RS>> same.
RS>>
RS>> What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host
RS>> same downlin more than one ftn session pwds should match the other
RS>> stuff is hpt and shou be fine I am thinking...???

NA> I'm not really sure, just that it was fixed here and left alone.

NA> Hpt should have nothing to do with BinkD?

Thats what I think as well, so I have the links cfg in hpt alone and just doing
the session pwds in binkd, I have a couple downlinks helping with the test...
so far so good.

Regards,

Rick

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[Oli]

Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

RS> Hello All!

RS> I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or
RS> hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed
RS> to more than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or
RS> do they have to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the
RS> downlink by making his different networks have the same passwd but I have
RS> others with different ones that work just fine?

Where do you see the problems, where do you get errors? With binkd or hpt?

It shouldn't be a problem to use different mail / packet passwords (the
passwords you configure in your tosser / hpt config). The binkp protocol does
not support negotiating multiple passwords for multiple AKAs within one session
/ poll, which can cause "weird "problems"".

Some nodes use hide-aka lines in binkd.cfg to only present one specific AKA per
poll. E.g.:

hide-aka 5:123/***@fidonet !*@fidonet
hide-aka 400:1/***@othernet !*@othernet

One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different passwords could
work in this case. But I think it's better to just use the same password.
Multiple passwords don't make it more secure.

[Rick Smith]

Hello Oli!

Friday February 09 2024 22:00, you wrote to me:

Ol> * Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
Ol> Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

RS>> Hello All!

RS>> I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its
RS>> binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my
RS>> downlinks are subscribed to more than one. Can they have
RS>> different passwords for each network or do they have to be the
RS>> same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by making
RS>> his different networks have the same passwd but I have others
RS>> with different ones that work just fine?

Ol> Where do you see the problems, where do you get errors? With binkd or
Ol> hpt?

Ol> It shouldn't be a problem to use different mail / packet passwords
Ol> (the passwords you configure in your tosser / hpt config). The binkp
Ol> protocol does not support negotiating multiple passwords for multiple
Ol> AKAs within one session / poll, which can cause "weird "problems"".

Ol> Some nodes use hide-aka lines in binkd.cfg to only present one
Ol> specific AKA per poll. E.g.:

Ol> hide-aka 5:123/***@fidonet !*@fidonet
Ol> hide-aka 400:1/***@othernet !*@othernet

Ol> One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different passwords
Ol> could work in this case. But I think it's better to just use the same
Ol> password. Multiple passwords don't make it more secure.

So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?


Regards,

Rick

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[Oli]

Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

Ol>> One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different
Ol>> passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to just
Ol>> use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it more
Ol>> secure.

RS> So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?

Yes.

[Rick Smith]

Hello Oli!

Saturday February 10 2024 18:18, you wrote to me:

Ol> * Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
Ol> Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

Ol>>> One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different
Ol>>> passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to
Ol>>> just use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it
Ol>>> more secure.

RS>> So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?

Ol> Yes.

we are testing now, but that does seem to be the case

Regards,

Rick

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